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How does Tarkovsky's view of humanity contrast with Stanley Kubrick's in 2001: A Space Odyssey?

A look at how a conversation on Solaris frames Tarkovsky's faith in human striving against Kubrick's more cynical, externally dependent vision of transcendence.

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The short answer

In a discussion on the podcast Very Bad Wizards about Tarkovsky's Solaris, one host argues that Tarkovsky sees people as flawed but capable of striving toward redemption and real connection through their own love and effort. Kubrick's 2001, by contrast, is read as more cynical about people acting on their own: his characters are passive, and transcendence only arrives through an external force, the monolith, rather than through anything the humans themselves do.

Key points

  • A host on Very Bad Wizards contrasts Tarkovsky's Solaris with Kubrick's 2001 on the question of human potential.
  • Tarkovsky's characters confront guilt and grief directly and strive toward connection through their own effort and love.
  • Kubrick's characters are described as more passive, with transcendence coming from the external monolith rather than from human action.
  • The contrast is offered as an interpretation of the two films, not as a settled claim about either director's intentions.

The longer answer

## What the conversation claims

This question comes from a discussion on the podcast Very Bad Wizards about Tarkovsky's film Solaris. One host argues that the two directors, both working in science fiction and both preoccupied with what lies beyond ordinary human life, land in very different places about what people are capable of on their own.

The claim is that Tarkovsky treats his characters as flawed but not stuck. In Solaris, people carry guilt, grief and unresolved love, and the alien ocean that surrounds the space station forces them to confront those things directly by manifesting copies of the people they have wronged or lost. The host argues that this confrontation is where Tarkovsky's optimism shows itself: the characters strive toward redemption and real connection through their own effort and capacity for love, without any outside power doing the work for them.

Kubrick's 2001, on this reading, tells a different story. Its human characters are notably flat and controlled, more passive than active, and the film's moments of transcendence do not come from anything they do. They come from the monolith, an external and inscrutable force that intervenes to push humanity toward its next stage. The host's argument is that this makes Kubrick's vision more cynical about unaided human potential: left to itself, humanity does not transcend, it needs something else to trigger the leap.

The strongest objection raised

The discussion also raises the natural pushback: is this contrast too clean? Both directors are famous for withholding easy answers, and Solaris itself is ambiguous about whether the connections its characters form with their guests are real contact or elaborate self-deception. The host's argument does not resolve that ambiguity, it simply locates Tarkovsky's hope in the striving itself, whether or not the striving fully succeeds.

Why this framing is useful

Whether or not you accept the contrast fully, it gives you a sharp way to watch both films. Ask, as you watch, where the movement toward something larger than the self is coming from: from a character's own effort and love, or from an outside force acting on passive people.

Objections and replies

The contrast may be too clean

Both directors are known for resisting simple readings, and Solaris leaves it genuinely unclear whether the connections its characters form are authentic contact or a kind of self-deception induced by the ocean.

Reply

The host's argument does not require the ambiguity in Solaris to be resolved. The claim is narrower: Tarkovsky locates whatever hope exists in the characters' own striving, whether or not that striving fully succeeds, while Kubrick locates the decisive movement outside his characters entirely.

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Sources

  1. Very Bad Wizards, Episode 337: First Contact? (Tarkovsky's "Solaris") Podcast episode, original episode