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Carissa Veliz on the Ethics of Prediction

Carissa Veliz discusses with her interviewer how social predictions function as commands and threaten justice, drawing on J.L. Austin's speech act theory.

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Carissa Veliz on Prophecy

With Carissa Veliz Published 17 min

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The brief

Carissa Veliz argues that predictions, especially about social and technological futures, are rarely neutral forecasts. They function more like commands, verdicts, or sales pitches, shaping the very outcomes they claim only to describe.

Her reasoning draws on J.L. Austin's speech act theory, the idea that some sentences do things rather than merely describe the world. A confident prediction from a tech executive, she suggests, works less like a weather forecast and more like a performative utterance: it tells you what to do while sounding like it only tells you what will happen. This matters because social predictions tend to be self-fulfilling. Believing a prediction changes behavior, and that behavior can produce the predicted outcome, which erases the evidence needed to test whether the prediction was ever accurate in the first place. Veliz calls this a perfect crime: we never see the counterfactual world where the prediction was never made. She extends this to how journalists treat the pronouncements of figures like Elon Musk or Bill Gates as established fact, and to algorithmic predictions used in loans, jobs, and insurance, which she argues undermine due process because a rejected applicant cannot contest a probabilistic judgment the way they could a clear factual criterion. She also turns the same critique on effective altruism's long-termist calculations, arguing that once near-infinite future populations enter a moral calculation, proportion collapses and almost anything can be justified.

The strongest objection comes from her interviewer, who presses her on two fronts: maybe a tech executive's prediction is just a sincere belief that happens to also serve his interests, and maybe using probability to price loan risk is simply sound business practice, no different from insurance. Veliz's reply is that intent does not matter much. Even a sincere prediction can become manipulative in its effects, and what looks like sound practice for one company can still be unjust for society, especially when it locks people into self-confirming cycles of disadvantage.

Her proposed corrective is to tether decisions to present facts and desert rather than speculative futures, treating philosophy itself as a check on the temptation to defer to the modern equivalents of oracles and astrologers.

Strongest arguments

Predictions function as commands, not descriptions

0:59

Veliz argues predictions sound like factual claims about the future but often work as verdicts or orders, especially in the social domain. When a tech executive predicts everyone will use AI, he is not forecasting but trying to get you to act, buying into his vision.

Self-fulfilling prophecies erase their own evidence

2:08

Social predictions can become self-fulfilling even without the speaker intending it, as when telling a student they will fail affects their performance. Veliz calls this the perfect crime, since no error signal is produced: we never see the counterfactual world where the prediction was not made.

Social predictions act like a magnet but are not always enough

4:12

Veliz claims virtually all social predictions exert a self-fulfilling force, unlike predictions about the weather, but this force can still fail to overcome reality, as shown by the Fyre Festival and Theranos, where outlandish claims eventually crashed against unmet substance.

Austin's speech act theory explains predictive language

5:57

Veliz applies J.L. Austin's idea that some sentences do things rather than describe the world, comparing social predictions to performative utterances like marriage vows or ship christenings, since they implicitly prescribe action while appearing to describe fact.

Media amplify powerful figures' predictions into false facts

6:58

Journalists report predictions from figures like Elon Musk or Bill Gates as though they were established facts, which grants those figures outsized power. Veliz compares this to historical deference to oracles, astrologers, and Rasputin.

Algorithmic prediction undermines due process and justice

11:22

When decisions about loans, jobs, or insurance rest on unfalsifiable predictions rather than clear criteria, the rejected person cannot contest the decision, unlike a factual criterion they could challenge. Veliz argues this erodes principles of merit and fairness and can create vicious cycles that validate biased predictions.

Long-termist calculation can justify anything

14:26

Veliz criticizes effective altruism's practice of projecting trillions of future people to outweigh present populations, arguing that once near-infinite quantities enter moral calculation, all sense of proportion is lost and almost any action can be justified.

Disagreements

Whether powerful predictions are sincere belief or self-interest

1:56

Her interviewer suggests a tech executive's prediction could simply be a sincere true belief that happens to also benefit them financially, rather than a manipulative command. Veliz responds that even sincere predictions can become self-fulfilling and manipulative in effect regardless of intent.

Whether loan predictions are just ordinary probability weighting

12:11

Her interviewer pushes back that using probability to assess loan risk is simply sound business practice, comparable to insurance. Veliz counters that what works for an individual company can be unjust for society, since unfalsifiable predictions deny people due process and can create self-confirming cycles of disadvantage.

Concepts discussed

  • Justice Acting unjustly, including lying or pursuing pleasure as the good, is impiety against the rational nature that made us for each other.

Philosophers and works discussed

  • Carissa Veliz
  • Prophecy By Carissa Veliz.

Questions this episode answers

  • Why do social predictions tend to become self-fulfilling prophecies?

    2:08

    Veliz explains that believing a prediction changes behavior and psychology, which can bring about the predicted outcome, and because this effect is hidden, we never see the counterfactual to test whether the original prediction was accurate.

  • How does J.L. Austin's speech act theory apply to predictions?

    5:57

    Veliz argues that, like performative utterances such as marriage vows, social predictions do something with words rather than merely describe the world, functioning as implicit commands about what you should do.

  • Why do algorithmic predictions used for loans and jobs raise justice concerns?

    11:22

    Veliz argues that unlike clear factual criteria which can be challenged if wrong, probabilistic predictions are unfalsifiable, so a rejected applicant cannot contest the decision, undermining due process and merit-based fairness.

  • What is wrong with effective altruism's long-term population calculations?

    14:26

    Veliz argues that once effective altruists project trillions of future people and weigh them against people alive today, the calculation loses all sense of proportion and can be used to justify almost any action.

  • Why does Carissa Veliz say powerful people's predictions get treated like oracles?

    10:07

    She compares modern deference to tech executives' predictions to historical deference to the Oracle of Delphi, astrologers, and Rasputin, arguing that status grants unwarranted credibility to speculative claims about the future.

Related primary passages

He who acts unjustly acts impiously. For since the universal nature has made rational animals for the sake of one another to help one another according to their deserts, but in no way to injure one another, he who transgresses her will, is clearly guilty of impiety towards the highest divinity.

Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 9.1 Read in context

The opening claim of the whole meditation: injustice is not a social lapse but a break with the rational order that made us for each other.

Sources

  1. Marcus Aurelius, Meditations Primary text, Stoa library
  2. Philosophy Bites, Carissa Veliz on Prophecy Podcast episode, original episode